Are thunderstorms synonymous with lighting

What precautions do campers take when camping in a thunderstorm?

  • Ultinalilu 08/08/2013, 12:11 am

    When do you get out of the tent and into the car?

    When it really crashes and the storm is just above the campsite, or earlier?
    In the event of a storm, get out again and tighten or just leave everything to itself?

    I don't want to put my children or myself and my husband in unnecessary danger, but sitting in the car with tired kids for hours is also stupid. Actually, you would have to rent an apartment on the CP so that you have a shelter when it comes.

    My husband once had the idea of ​​ramming a copper rod into the ground, not right next to the tent.

    And what are the Wowa's doing? It's not a Faraday cage either, is it?

    I'm slowly getting scared of my first vacation in a tent.

    lg, Nadine

  • Hello Nadine,

    the way Kate does, I would do it too.



    Quote by Outdoor dreams
    We sit out violent thunderstorms in the car.

    If there is less than 10 seconds between lightning and thunder. it will be time for us to 'move' into the car, as the thunderstorm is then less than 3.33 km away.

    (Reasonably accurate calculation formula: divide the distance between lightning and thunder by 3 = distance of the thunderstorm in km).
  • Jellerich 08.08.2013, 02:07
    Quote by Ultinalilu

    My husband once had the idea of ​​ramming a copper rod into the ground, not right next to the tent.

    And what are the Wowa's doing? It's not a Faraday cage either, is it?

    I'm slowly getting scared of my first vacation in a tent.

    lg, Nadine
    Would be interesting to know what your husband is trying to achieve with it.

    Yes, but that has already been written.

    This is unnecessary if you follow the safety rules. This has also already been adequately described in this article.

    Time and again I am surprised that they seem to provide answers without bothering to read the post in context.
  • Central Upper Swabia 08.08.2013, 10:29
    Quote by Ultinalilu
    When do you get out of the tent and into the car?

    When it really crashes and the storm is just above the campsite, or earlier?
    In the event of a storm, get out again and tighten or just leave everything to itself?

    I don't want to put my children or myself and my husband in unnecessary danger, but sitting in the car with tired kids for hours is also stupid. Actually, you would have to rent an apartment on the CP so that you have a shelter when it comes.

    My husband once had the idea of ​​ramming a copper rod into the ground, not right next to the tent.

    And what are the Wowa's doing? It's not a Faraday cage either, is it?

    I'm slowly getting scared of my first vacation in a tent.

    lg, Nadine
    Hello,

    Since you already have a queasy feeling BEFORE going on vacation, you can do it like I've always done - if it seems too precarious to me, I wander into the car
    There are people who are very afraid of thunderstorms, some have a healthy respect for them and others are too smart to be afraid of them.
    You seem to be one of the first - which increases your chances of survival many times over
    The rule of thumb for approximate calculation of the distance - if it seems so close to YOU ​​that YOU feel threatened, don't hesitate and get in the car.
    3.33 km are NOTHING for a lightning bolt .....
    Nevertheless, this formula is quite useful, after all, you can use it to judge whether a thunderstorm is approaching or not
    You can hardly care who refers to any statistics and according to which the de facto non-existent risk is ignored and stays in the tent, trust YOUR gut feeling and if this tells you to go to the demonstrably safe car, then do so.
    It is never too early and rarely too late.

    People, let's be honest - what is the point of the bullshit to shine with any statistics about the arithmetical probability of scratching this or that ????
    Do you seriously believe that such answers are even remotely useful to the questioner or, in your opinion, is that even remotely the optimal answer to the questions asked at the beginning?

    In the last 20 years I have been able to endure quite a few thunderstorms, mostly while fishing i-wo in Europe, that might be enough for 2 lives ....
    It is correct that the wind or the sometimes hurricane-like squalls like to accompany the violent thunderstorms, also poses a danger that should not be underestimated, no question, I've experienced that too many times. Fallen trees cost me 2 sinfully expensive tents and no, I haven't been in there for a long time.
    Also lightning strikes didn't spare me - but not in my tent but in the fishing rods made of the finest carbon fiber, which were set up a few meters in front of it, here too I was already in the safe car that was parked about 100m behind the fishing spot and was allowed to watch something very cute from the box seat Blitzelein turns 2 of my favorite rods along with reels and electronic bite indicators into an ugly, worthless lump of shit dirt ....
    But better that stuff than me

    At this point I would also like to advise against the copper pipe or the like being driven into the earth
  • becks081508.08.2013, 10:44

    OK,
    I give up. You can type as long as you want, people don't get it in their heads that the main danger in thunderstorms does not come from lightning but from the peripheral phenomena, especially strong winds. Accordingly, people feel safe when they give the tip "sit down in the car and everything is fine, because it is a Faraday cage", but do not consider that the tree next to which the car / camper is parked can simply fall over because it focuses so much are of what appears loud and bright.

    So don't put a tent or car so that it can be hit by falling objects, otherwise the Faraday cage will quickly turn into a flat Faraday can. The chances of this are much higher because lightning only hits sometimes, but the wind always hits.

    Well then.
    Becks

  • Central Upper Swabia 08.08.2013, 11:33
    Quote by becks0815
    OK,
    I give up. You can type as long as you want, people don't get it in their heads that the main danger in thunderstorms does not come from lightning but from the peripheral phenomena, especially strong winds. Accordingly, people feel safe when they give the tip "sit in the car and everything is fine, because it is a Faraday cage", but do not consider that the tree next to which the car / motorhome is parked can simply fall over because it focuses so much are of what appears loud and bright.

    So don't put a tent or car so that it can be hit by falling objects, otherwise the Faraday cage will quickly turn into a flat Faraday can. The chances of this are much higher because lightning only hits sometimes, but the wind always hits.

    Well then.
    Becks
    I don't see it that way.

    You are certainly not wrong with this - nevertheless, the car also offers a much higher level of protection against falling trees or flying parts than a tent of any type could ever offer.
    That is why I continue to see the car as a first choice refuge, especially since it is mobile and you can still make use of it when the location bears these risks.
    I don't think any of the car advocates here see the car as a 1000% guarantee that it will survive any storm absolutely unscathed.
  • Meadow camper 08.08.2013, 17:58
    Quote by Ultinalilu
    When do you get out of the tent and into the car?
    When it really crashes and the storm is just above the campsite, or earlier?
    If it seems too close / too dangerous to ME.
    Quote by Ultinalilu
    In the event of a storm, get out again and tighten or just leave everything to itself?
    It depends, if there is no danger for me, I also turn it up sometimes, if it's too precarious - I prefer the tent than me.
    Quote by Ultinalilu
    I don't want to put my children or myself and my husband in unnecessary danger, but sitting in the car for hours with tired kids is also stupid. Actually you should rent an apartment on the CP so that you have a shelter when it comes.
    If you can / want to afford it
    Quote by Ultinalilu
    My husband once had the idea of ​​ramming a copper rod into the ground, not right next to the tent.
    ..to tell the lightning HERE !!! or what

    Quote by Ultinalilu
    I'm slowly getting scared of my first vacation in a tent.
    lg, Nadine
    Hello,
    do not panic, there are not thunderstorms that pull directly over the square every day.
    Take a trip to camp, relax, and wait.

    Greetings and have fun camping in tents, you will notice how great that is (even if you had to spend a few hours in the car)

    Martin
  • pogibonsi 08/09/2013, 09:23 AM

    I found the following at Wetterspiegel.de:


    "5. At the campsite

    - To protect against lightning strikes, a lightning rod at least 10 meters high should be set up on the campsite at a distance of 100 meters from the next tent. The further away the tents are, the higher the lightning rod has to be. During a thunderstorm, a radius of 100 meters around the tents is taboo.

    - The campsite must be vacated if all of the following points are not met:
    a. The tents must be set up free of metal: i.e. without, for example, metal poles or pegs.
    b. No tree may stand closer than its height to a tent.
    c. A lightning rod must be available